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	<title>Comments on: The Ring: A brief survey of performances and works</title>
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		<title>by: MRB</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-14865</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wagner's 29 year old great-granddaughter, &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2175606,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Katharina Wagner&lt;/a&gt;, may be taking over Bayreuth when Wolfgang Wagner departs.  Wolfgang has been the director of the festival for 56 years.

And what should we make of &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2007/10/17/barenboim-berlin.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;?  A Jew, Daniel Barenboim, and his mostly Jewish Divan Orchestra will be performing Wagner's music in Hitler's theater in Berlin next year.  The Jews really do own everything now.

In fairness to Barenboim, his orchestra does include a large number of Arabs.  And he is a fine pianist.  His interpretations of Beethovan's middle sonatas are good.  Better than, say, Ashkenazy's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wagner&#8217;s 29 year old great-granddaughter, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2175606,00.html" rel="nofollow">Katharina Wagner</a>, may be taking over Bayreuth when Wolfgang Wagner departs.  Wolfgang has been the director of the festival for 56 years.</p>
<p>And what should we make of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2007/10/17/barenboim-berlin.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>?  A Jew, Daniel Barenboim, and his mostly Jewish Divan Orchestra will be performing Wagner&#8217;s music in Hitler&#8217;s theater in Berlin next year.  The Jews really do own everything now.</p>
<p>In fairness to Barenboim, his orchestra does include a large number of Arabs.  And he is a fine pianist.  His interpretations of Beethovan&#8217;s middle sonatas are good.  Better than, say, Ashkenazy&#8217;s.
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		<title>by: MRB</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-11500</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Keith-

Opera (okay, Wagner) is like a religion.  It becomes part of your life and devotion to it can't be helped.

As for the other things, remember that I am quite older than you and can draw upon years of experience and study.  After twenty years at the grindstone, you too will have a well of resources to draw from.

There is a good deal of truth in the old adage: age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm.

The key to fruitful study is to ask the right questions, read the right books and not be afraid to come to iconoclastic conclusions.  Add to this: think, think, think.  Think about everything.

This is the "secret".  Do this and in twenty years (perhaps even in much less time) you will no longer be impressed by me.  And as a fringe benefit you will also no longer be tempted with megalomania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith-</p>
<p>Opera (okay, Wagner) is like a religion.  It becomes part of your life and devotion to it can&#8217;t be helped.</p>
<p>As for the other things, remember that I am quite older than you and can draw upon years of experience and study.  After twenty years at the grindstone, you too will have a well of resources to draw from.</p>
<p>There is a good deal of truth in the old adage: age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm.</p>
<p>The key to fruitful study is to ask the right questions, read the right books and not be afraid to come to iconoclastic conclusions.  Add to this: think, think, think.  Think about everything.</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;secret&#8221;.  Do this and in twenty years (perhaps even in much less time) you will no longer be impressed by me.  And as a fringe benefit you will also no longer be tempted with megalomania.
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		<title>by: Keith</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-11443</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How on earth do you have time to study opera, history, theology/philosophy, raise a family, teach full-time, and write lengthy, in-depth articles in a blog and consequently interact/debate with intellectual peons like myself?

Share your secret with me. Combined with my megalomania, such a skill might enable me to take over the world, or at least Western Europe, or at least Andorra, before I die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How on earth do you have time to study opera, history, theology/philosophy, raise a family, teach full-time, and write lengthy, in-depth articles in a blog and consequently interact/debate with intellectual peons like myself?</p>
<p>Share your secret with me. Combined with my megalomania, such a skill might enable me to take over the world, or at least Western Europe, or at least Andorra, before I die.
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		<title>by: MRB</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-11184</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For those who have not discovered Arthur Rackham's illustrations of the &lt;em&gt;Ring&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.artpassions.net/rackham/wagner_ring.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt; has a nice selection.  Lewis said of them that the seemed to be the very music made visible.  At least this was his opinion in his youth.

There are 64 drawings given in the sequence of the operas.   My favorites are 18, 31, 33, 34, 47, and 56.  A diverting exercise is to figure out the scene for each illustration.

For the advanced, here is a challenge: Give the opera, act, scene and circumstance of each of the following illustrations: 6, 14, 16, 30, 36, 37, 38, 39, 41, 53, 55, and 58.  The winner will receive a free one-year subscription to &lt;strong&gt;First Word&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who have not discovered Arthur Rackham&#8217;s illustrations of the <em>Ring</em>, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.artpassions.net/rackham/wagner_ring.html" rel="nofollow">this site</a> has a nice selection.  Lewis said of them that the seemed to be the very music made visible.  At least this was his opinion in his youth.</p>
<p>There are 64 drawings given in the sequence of the operas.   My favorites are 18, 31, 33, 34, 47, and 56.  A diverting exercise is to figure out the scene for each illustration.</p>
<p>For the advanced, here is a challenge: Give the opera, act, scene and circumstance of each of the following illustrations: 6, 14, 16, 30, 36, 37, 38, 39, 41, 53, 55, and 58.  The winner will receive a free one-year subscription to <strong>First Word</strong>.
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		<title>by: Tim H</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-3437</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The more I think about it, the more I think that someone proficient in German would indeed get as much out of a first viewing as it is possible to get in a first viewing.

I think an English-speaker watching the titles can almost get that much. In fact, when the Met production was broadcast for the first time on PBS in the 80s, I watched part of it with a classically-illiterate friend and he picked up a lot. Probably as much as I got in the first six or eight listenings.

More than the language, I think other propensities dominate here. It takes me several viewings even to "get" the simplest of operas. But that's fine. It just prolongs the pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more I think that someone proficient in German would indeed get as much out of a first viewing as it is possible to get in a first viewing.</p>
<p>I think an English-speaker watching the titles can almost get that much. In fact, when the Met production was broadcast for the first time on PBS in the 80s, I watched part of it with a classically-illiterate friend and he picked up a lot. Probably as much as I got in the first six or eight listenings.</p>
<p>More than the language, I think other propensities dominate here. It takes me several viewings even to &#8220;get&#8221; the simplest of operas. But that&#8217;s fine. It just prolongs the pleasure.
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		<title>by: Tim H</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-3410</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, I'm not sure how much would be lost not pre-studying the libretto if someone were proficient in German: we would have to ask someone with that qualification. However, I would urge people not to hold off jumping in due to lack of time or opportunity to study the libretto. If you can take a swimming lesson before wading in, consider doing so; but if not, wade in anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not sure how much would be lost not pre-studying the libretto if someone were proficient in German: we would have to ask someone with that qualification. However, I would urge people not to hold off jumping in due to lack of time or opportunity to study the libretto. If you can take a swimming lesson before wading in, consider doing so; but if not, wade in anyhow.
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		<title>by: MRB</title>
		<link>http://butler-harris.org/archives/154#comment-1935</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One book that I forgot to mention is William Berger's, &lt;em&gt;Wagner without Fear&lt;/em&gt;.  This book gives a brief biography of Wagner as well as helpful overviews of each of the ten operas.  He mixes in just theater legends and gossip to add just enough color to make for an enjoyable and easy read.

The book does suffer from a number of defects, but I'll mention just two.  (1) The author's chatty, "I'm just a regular guy who likes opera" style becomes cloying after a while.  And his attempts at humor (which are many) are almost all abortive. (2) His approach to Wagner's philosophy and political thought is conventional and uninteresting -- typical PC stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One book that I forgot to mention is William Berger&#8217;s, <em>Wagner without Fear</em>.  This book gives a brief biography of Wagner as well as helpful overviews of each of the ten operas.  He mixes in just theater legends and gossip to add just enough color to make for an enjoyable and easy read.</p>
<p>The book does suffer from a number of defects, but I&#8217;ll mention just two.  (1) The author&#8217;s chatty, &#8220;I&#8217;m just a regular guy who likes opera&#8221; style becomes cloying after a while.  And his attempts at humor (which are many) are almost all abortive. (2) His approach to Wagner&#8217;s philosophy and political thought is conventional and uninteresting &#8212; typical PC stuff.
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