Comments on: Lies, lies, lies http://butler-harris.org/archives/325 How can you have the last word if you haven't heard the first? Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:02:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: danielj http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37193 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:31:00 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37193 TJH: I couldn't access the site the day before. Then, Google was doing crazy things to it again. ("Butler-Harris" as a search term wouldn't bring up the blog) Shotgun: I'm not intimated so much as sad that no one seems to be able to outmaneuver him in debate. My faith isn't wavering, but I'd really like to understand more of the debate and be effective in arguing our side. I will shoot you an e-mail sometime soon. TJH: I couldn’t access the site the day before. Then, Google was doing crazy things to it again. (”Butler-Harris” as a search term wouldn’t bring up the blog)

Shotgun: I’m not intimated so much as sad that no one seems to be able to outmaneuver him in debate. My faith isn’t wavering, but I’d really like to understand more of the debate and be effective in arguing our side.

I will shoot you an e-mail sometime soon.

]]> by: TJH http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37168 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:17:02 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37168 Daniel-- I'm not sure what cued you in just now, but... yes, we have been hacked. We are working on unveiling a completely new location -- same content -- with the hack-resistant upgrades; at the same time, the down-time problem should go away. We are having some problems overcoming the data-base changes, but soon, friends, soon... In the meantime, if you see the hack residuals, please ignore them and hang in there a couple more weeks. Daniel– I’m not sure what cued you in just now, but… yes, we have been hacked. We are working on unveiling a completely new location — same content — with the hack-resistant upgrades; at the same time, the down-time problem should go away. We are having some problems overcoming the data-base changes, but soon, friends, soon… In the meantime, if you see the hack residuals, please ignore them and hang in there a couple more weeks.

]]> by: Shotgun http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37162 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:43:35 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37162 That guy is nothing to be intimidated by. He starts from the same autonomous presuppositions as every God-hater. I'm currently doing the foot work for a critique of Hegel. DanielJ, if you need some encouragement, just let me know via email. The guy is no Hegel...not by a long shot... That guy is nothing to be intimidated by.

He starts from the same autonomous presuppositions as every God-hater.

I’m currently doing the foot work for a critique of Hegel. DanielJ, if you need some encouragement, just let me know via email. The guy is no Hegel…not by a long shot…

]]> by: Josh http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37159 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:16:18 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37159 danielj: I know Paul Manata had some debates with him in the past. Gene Cook also interviewed him at least once. danielj:

I know Paul Manata had some debates with him in the past. Gene Cook also interviewed him at least once.

]]> by: danielj http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37156 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:06:15 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37156 By the way, is the First Word site being hacked or something? By the way, is the First Word site being hacked or something?

]]> by: danielj http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37155 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:04:09 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37155 Oops! It is Loftus! And I was serious about that feller at the Bahnsen Burner. No one really seems able to engage him and I would like to but I ain't smart enough. Oops!

It is Loftus!

And I was serious about that feller at the Bahnsen Burner. No one really seems able to engage him and I would like to but I ain’t smart enough.

]]> by: Joshua http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37144 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:27:00 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37144 It's <a href="http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=39" rel="nofollow">Lofton </a> It’s Lofton

]]> by: Josh http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37135 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:56:59 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37135 danielj: I'm not sure who John Lofton is (the guy whose link Joshua posted)...but I think you might be confusing him with John W. Loftus. danielj:

I’m not sure who John Lofton is (the guy whose link Joshua posted)…but I think you might be confusing him with John W. Loftus.

]]> by: danielj http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37122 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:59:07 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37122 I wouldn't steer people weak in the faith toward John Lofton. They might end up at the Bahnsen Burner blog and that guy seems to do nothing but annihilate the presupposionalist position usually by demolishing the arguments at the Triablogue. He is a very smart cookie. I'm reading Hume right now to try and come up with a defense. Perhaps you guys could do some posts in the future engaging his arguments against TAG? I wouldn’t steer people weak in the faith toward John Lofton.

They might end up at the Bahnsen Burner blog and that guy seems to do nothing but annihilate the presupposionalist position usually by demolishing the arguments at the Triablogue.

He is a very smart cookie. I’m reading Hume right now to try and come up with a defense.

Perhaps you guys could do some posts in the future engaging his arguments against TAG?

]]> by: Joshua http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37088 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:26:43 +0000 http://butler-harris.org/archives/325#comment-37088 In John Lofton's <a href="http://www.theamericanview.com/dictator/media/1082/show_160.mp3?PHPSESSID=279c9c94a1a25e02693d0c91aa0d0867" rel="nofollow">45 min interview of Vince Bugliosi</a> they discuss Bugliosis's recent book, "The Prosecution Of George W. Bush For Murder." All neo-cons should listen to this, taking note that there is no argument to vindicate Bush. Well, there are arguments, such as the one near the end by Culture Warrior, Bill O'Reilly. Pathetic. This is a good test in ethics to determine whether our neo-con Christian brothers will keep or ditch their Christian worldview. In John Lofton’s 45 min interview of Vince Bugliosi they discuss Bugliosis’s recent book, “The Prosecution Of George W. Bush For Murder.”

All neo-cons should listen to this, taking note that there is no argument to vindicate Bush. Well, there are arguments, such as the one near the end by Culture Warrior, Bill O’Reilly. Pathetic.

This is a good test in ethics to determine whether our neo-con Christian brothers will keep or ditch their Christian worldview.

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